italian black powder revolver proof marks

Uberti cartridge rifles embody the look and feel of the Old West. <<9CAB7C9ADE9DBB4DB23FAD02FA255802>]>> 0000099401 00000 n Dakin Gun Company Importers of Italian and Spanish Shotguns, c 1960 in San Francisco, California. Price: $436.00. So, what follows is a photo library of many of the various Black Powder Proofmarks, Date Codes, Importer, Distributor and Manufacturer's Marks to help with identifying the manufacturer of your revolvers, pistols or rifles. 0000006511 00000 n 148 0 obj <> endobj I've got some recent guns and you have extrapolated the Date Codes exactly right. 0000039738 00000 n 0000107556 00000 n Copyright 2017 and beyond. gSchf41,%0&nMF;RD}|MY3-!!6m"m._Z8eGW7F]_[jGFS/`L{U\_&?4c@4xhZ+FGmLQA!^D9`xk'3'SL`AbE39a1Xl72t1Hl>|l lX3r7 @^o5I+u`,cB|H^iaPcbxW|)skz5UXx?8|qAo:"QUvbsd,!BD_Z6R'z~oAWF|1b+Q5,J[D:Spx%Ojoqo[$4gxcX-)I._[2$)Kfk4Z?X-DNP[I1bv(~SE_m6#O. Not common but very neat. 178 0 obj <>stream TABLE OF RELATION BETWEEN LETTERS AND YEARS FOR THE ITALIAN PROOFTEST HOUSE The second one PN under a star means BLACK POWDER PROOFING (P stands for POLVERE - POWDER, N stands for NERA - BLACK) Navy Model Right side -- Black Powder Only -- Made In Italy Bottom flat -- "BFB" (manufacturer's mark) Caliber -- 36 (.380 round ball) and an eagles head. Weekly . 0000027918 00000 n They went from BU to BZ 2004-05. Joined Mar 2, 2020 1860 Army Engraved Black Powder Revolver .44 cal Blued. reference books that display proof marks and their meanings. 0000131632 00000 n :idunno: I know it of recent manufacture since Pietta began making this particular model only in recent years. H|TMs0+Vcv~$C4=[Yb$9?dowy3YY^TO~&nV;r6gReI LiFZj2C&-zR` Barrel Length: 7 " Octagonal Sights / Optics: The front sight is a brass bead fixed to the barrel . 0000106738 00000 n The information was given to me years ago and yes I was wondering myself how they got 30% more powder into the cylinders! Board Of Very unusual underhammer as the cocking knob is a better design so you can grasp it easier and. referred to more commonly as "Proof Marks", Largest pricelist of weapons and civil supplies. 0000010034 00000 n H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} 0000016749 00000 n SKU: FR185117. Misc. 0000012886 00000 n The third is a plain stamp, with the letters A.V.E. Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030, shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing. 0000113366 00000 n The most visible change is the change from a crown to a star 1950 so crown and PSF is from the time between 1923 and 1950. source of Manufacturer Serial Numbers. 0000001156 00000 n Re: italian made .44 black powder revolver That's essentially a copy of a copy. In 1849 the additional ciphers for provisional proof the letters E.L. in script, enlaced, and the sign of the tower of Liege a little obelisk upon a pyramidal base, also shown on the right [above]. Action Type: Percussion Black Powder Revolver. 0000001540 00000 n 0000004172 00000 n Also has pn with shield on cylinder. The "not all revolvers are proofed" is unverified since nobody is willing to admit this. Bookmark Miscellaneous 0000109981 00000 n This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. 0000001623 00000 n This rifle is equipped with an elevation and windage adjustable Creedmoor rear sight and spirit-level tunnel front sight with windage adjustment micrometer screw. for exports be able towithstand a proscribed load without damage. A great deal of painstaking research work is necessary before a list of armourers marks applied to pistols can be compiled, but I have every hope of preparing such a list at a future date when peace is restored in Europe and the great museum collections are accessible. 0000004123 00000 n 0000134772 00000 n 0000080946 00000 n -Ec]]`iBd[&QE~t|J3Wva64v0-uy6Owi.x1:y14y=l*^>rv^)eO>S^)zy^Qp.6CTZ=_"qU[f!=xKw2"+pMlb/}-g%0_/3LA0G#%gC_`uC/}uEpV:+kk Powered by Invision Community. Marlin-Savage-Winchester 0000011188 00000 n that we have found on this subject. 0000004861 00000 n JavaScript is disabled. Location: High & Dry . manufactured firearms, such as pistols from Spain and Italy, will list a 0000008415 00000 n It is becoming apparent that the major manufacturers used these shops as sub-contractors as a source of parts as well as complete revolvers for those distributors seeking cheaper and cheaper guns. 1968 = XXIV. 36 Made in Italy". 0000008549 00000 n Specifications: Manufacturer -- Fusav di Bini & Baronio (Italy) Date Code -- "AD" = 1978 date of manufacture Barrel Markings: Left side -- 36 Cal. 0000006260 00000 n F.A.P. visiting our on-line listing of manufacturers identifying marks, 0000027315 00000 n 0000036825 00000 n 0000109588 00000 n It is available on the web from Adobe as a free download. A PDF link to Dennis Adler's article about Italian Black Powder Proof marks is given below. date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and An additional listing showing old PN in French does indeed mean Poudre Noire, but as most BP handguns we see these days are made in Italy then it stands for Polvere Nero - Italian for black powder. There are the RRRs, the *PN and * Gardone proof marks and an AB date code. In stock. 0000010816 00000 n 0000005085 00000 n St. Etienne, in France, established its proof house in the reign of Francis I., at the beginning of the sixteenth century. The cylinder is marked with the Gardone and black powder proof marks and displays a reproduction of the 1843 Navel battle scene typically found on Colt C1860 Army revolvers. 0000057470 00000 n 0000003452 00000 n 0000000016 00000 n Italian made cap and ball sixguns have a variety of markings that denote the year of manufacture, the proof houses where it was tested and the manufacturers name or logo. 0000147394 00000 n Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. 1989 = AU. It has the standard Italian proof marks and date code (AD). 0 2: A re-bored rifle. http://www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf You must have Adobe or similar software to read pdf files. From left to right: year of manufacture, Gardone V.T. Your gun appears to be made by one of the lesser known companies as it doesn't say Uberti or Pietta. Most specimen marks are of this nature, and it is no unusual thing to find the marks of two different smiths upon the same weapon, one man signing the lock work, the other being the barrel maker. 0000080589 00000 n My revolver has 'Made in Italy' on the barrel, and the Italian Gardone proof as well as the Italian proof that has a star surrounded by 8 lands and grooves above the letters PN both appear several places on the frame and cylinder. xref If it is a fake it's more likely any of the Italian proof marks and makers stamps were carefully filed off or filled then filed. Good info. Over the years I was amazed at the poor quality control done. HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 0000096658 00000 n There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. Feedback. These marks have all the characteristic appearance of a rectangle, with a small blob at the top rather like a tied up sack of corn. acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". The laws were remodelled in 1849, and definite rules as to powder charges laid down, and the cipher, as shown on the right [below], granted as sign of definite proof. I have a older or what looks to be older blacke powder revolver that i have purchased. Thanks for your help. 3. Included with the marks is a brief history of each of the manufacturers who made or are still making these replicas and the importers/distributors who imported these replicas based on what is currently known about them. The majority of marks will be found on the barrel flats, though early guns may have stamps on the tubes, under the forend. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". 0000002539 00000 n 1946 = 2. The brass frame makes it a Confederate. SPANISH PROOF MARKS PROOF MARKS: SPANISH PROOF MARKS, cont. 1810 -> Liege. 1848 Dragoon Revolvers. 0000015263 00000 n 148 75 This is from a Deluxe engraved Pedersoli Le Page pistol, and all of the stampings are on the underside of the barrel. to share our findings by this means of communication. Fjestad. 0000005942 00000 n 0000080540 00000 n Above trigger has has shield pn and AE. The history of some of these makers and importers are no longer available due to lost records. These marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. 0000042008 00000 n The flag is your country of origin and is that the Swiss flag? This will be an on going I have searched for this site but can't find it. View Models. 0000009076 00000 n Uberti set the standard for producing quality replica firearms by which all others are judged. 0000012438 00000 n T^;y} 4E I cant seem to find the exact one any where. SKU: FRS18511. 0000141211 00000 n 0000007161 00000 n %PDF-1.3 % 0000011515 00000 n Underneath the whole appears the word St. Etienne. HMo09..0pl4jub(FZf=~$ABP(XLP The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof. 0000007663 00000 n 0000001752 00000 n Thanks for posting those codesI use them quite often to make sure the correct parts are ordered. Hb``a``=P @1630i`@GDTVs(R {g i 23>`.0,p?PA! 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