rivarossi 60' passenger cars

Most of them are made to negotiate smaller radii. They were 60ft 10 1/4 inches over the end sills and 60ft 1inch interior length. . Thecoaches ranfine, I then ran them on my mainline which is 22" radius and of course they ran perfectly. i'm a big kid right now.. going to open them up and get some pics. The C420 sold by Rivarossi was the old MRC/Lima one, and did run well. COLOR HO RIVAROSSI OBSERVATION TAIL CAR INTERIOR #9051 1930's AHM IHC Passenger Brand New C $38.76 or Best Offer +C $28.89 shipping from United States 18 sold Sponsored HO TRAIN RIVAROSSI TWO 1920 HW PASSENGER CAR INTERIORS COACH & PULLMAN Brand New C $57.40 Buy It Now +C $19.69 shipping from United States Sponsored I intend to replace the trucks in the long run with the 41-BNO series, which was often found on ACL and Southern Railway Budd units. I will send you a PM. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, I don't know it they still come without interiors. Bachmann & Rivarossi HO Scale Assorted Passenger Cars [6] EX. I have some of those 60' cars from when they were made by Walthers - Trainline. I have to wonder why yours are derailing. Many railroads used multiple colors, or types of paint on the same car. Either will serve your railroad well. I can't wait until my set arrives. By todays standards they . So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars from the turn of the century until after WWII. $134.99 + $14.87 shipping. They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used? On every one I replaced the wheelsets with 33" Kadee wheels. Car & Truck Safety & Security Accessories, Passenger Car Interior KIT for Rivarossi 85ft Heavy-Weight DINER [ HO ]. RIVAROSSI HO SCALE U25C DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE (#266188039026) d***r (61) - Feedback left by buyer d***r . I have a couple of these sets and would recommend them highly. 30+ years later, I still have all of them in my fleet, now in their 4th or 5th upgrade cycle. I have one 2-8-8-2 that has headed up a group of 237 coal cars at a local show. Dimensions: 600mm. GQ. thanks for your info guys. I replaced the original wheels, which I think are 31", with nominally correct 36" wheels from Kadee. we did not have the truck tuner tool back then either. All the cars date from the 1920's. I think we need more details. At one time, I had four sets of four Rivarossi 60' passenger cars. I bought Walthers lighting kits, which included new trucks with metal wireframes. OK, Capt'n, here's how the story of ~60 ' cars currently goes Rivarossi introduced its line of quality 60' cars (baggage, RPO, combine, coach) a few years agojust prior to going into some serious financial straights. One baggage, one RPO, one combine and one coach. Before the latest "era" in model railroading, Rivarossi "Red Box" steamers were about as good as one could get. Detail is decent even by today's standards. I thought the Rivarossi trucks seemed flimsy. though, not exact replicas, they do make a decent looking train. Item Add to Wish List. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 36" would be more correct but they would not clear inside the truck frame without surgery on the brake shoes. L&N Baggage car 205 was 60ft 9 1/2 inches over end sills. http://cgi.ebay.com/Walthers-Trainline-City-Express-Ho-ScaleTrain-Set_W0QQitemZ170136478613QQihZ007QQcategoryZ19135QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem. In general they aren't as good as current Bachmann and previous Bachmann Spectrum cars. Some Rivarossi cars come with interior details, but most of my pre-used ones didn't. Did you back 'em up too? At the club our mainlines have a 36" minimum radius, but I believe that the Oregon Trunk branch line and the Logging division may be 30" minimums, which still doesn't help You. $21.50 + $17.70 shipping. Come in black for heavyweight cars SKU 6060H Weight 0.13 lb Price $6.98 Qty Not available in the current price set. On the 18" line I did run them forward and backward and no problem, I also ran them through one turnout. The set consists of a coach, combine, RPO, and baggage. (To keep the clasp brakes, 33" wheels would work without interference). All the cars are in their original boxes. Fortunately, it appears that the Kato and Con-corcorrugated Budd cars are all prototypical, but only the slumbercoachis an identical car common to both lines. It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW.So, it was actually a DARK yellowish black. There were also 60 ft heavyweight sets packaged in both the Walthers and Rivarossi labels, the 60' cars came in a wide variety of railroad names as well. The short combine and coaches were used on locals - look at some of the C&NW picture books that are out. Typically RPO and Baggage cars were shorter than regular passenger cars. PRR had so much stuff there may be some hope there. The Rivarossi RPO's are 60-footers. Back then I was able to order interiors for all of them. After upgrades, they look good and run well on my layouts. Buyers choice. www.newsnorthwoods.blogspot.com. They are true horses. I have 3 coaches and a baggage car. (what is theera of the cars). Hi Jeff. 3. This was a problem as the needlepoint axle ends wore into the soft plastic truck sideframes. This product has been discontinued by The Western Depot and is limited to the quantity on hand. I also have A PRR GG1 (sold by AHM) and even though it is only single truck drive and underpowered, again with the large flanges it runs very well. HO Scale Riverossi Passenger Car LED Lighting Installation with "Floating Brass" pickups.www.modeltrainman.comwww.modeltraintechnology.com The sets were in 2 different 4 car sets, the sets had kaydee type couplers, sprung metal wheel sets, were also weighted and had interior finish and lighting as well. . the whole point is moot since i pull them with either a pair of P2K E units or a couple of boiler equipped P2K geeps. The 60' commuter cars were replaced and scrapped as the 85' bi-level cars began being delivered in 1956. The factory paint schemes were well-applied. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. These sets occasionally appear now on eBay, with 4 car sets often going for around $100. I do think the IHC cars are a "bit of this bit of that" generic, b ut I have seen online lists which purport to show the exact prototype of the Rivarossi/AHM heavyweights. Oddly enough, those 4 cars were based on cars that really were only 60' long, so technically weren't "shorties" eitheralthough they were pretty short. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 and 3306 (the photos and car listing indicate Rivarossi used accurate numbers on the C&NW cars). These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. Capt, I could be wrong about this (and I'm sure someone will point that out to me) but I thought Rivarossi, as a train manufacturer business was gone. Most all of my Rivarossi/AHM cars have interiors, I add weight in the vestibules (the rectangular 'peel and stick' weights) since the cars are pretty light. Sign in or register Daily Deals Brand Outlet Help & Contact Expand Watch List Expand My eBay Notification Expand Cart Back to home page | Listed in category: Toys & Hobbies Model Railroads & Trains Railroads & Trains Passenger Cars Share The Set A and Set B are OK cars. SO tomorrow I am picking up a Rivarossi 2-8-8-4. well from what i have seen very nice engines.had a few that were nice before i sold them on ebay. Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? $5 - $ . The RPOs and baggage cars (with 6 wheel trucks) were in general passenger service, while the 4 wheel truck combines and coaches were used primarily (perhaps exclusively) in Chicago commuter service. * Era starts with repaint to Tri-Color scheme and ends with Amtrak, if not sooner. Bought my set from Walthers 18 months ago, "limited quantity" etc, but no problems, they arrived in short order and good shape. Sometimes the metal wheels found their way on to the unlighted cars. Rivarossi 1920's HWT Passenger Car LACKAWANNA Ho Scale KEVIL. I am getting a four car set of 60 foot cars. I made bronze axle wipers to pick up juice. Close, maybe, Really correct, no. Something went wrong. So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars fromthe turn of the century until after WWII. Perfect for the tight curves on my branchline. Thank you for any help you may offer. For those, I used sheet styrene to create interior walls and partitions, and added RIX/PikeStuff seats'. Saw some late in the day at the Timonium train show. I've since replaced them with KDs. I painted a lot of undecorated figures, although not Mel-quality. $117.95. The first would be the set A and set B, that are full length cars of the AHM era type. Enjoy your new engine. The earlier runs of Rivarossi locos have the pizza cutter flanges that will not run on any track smaller than code 100 (the track that comes with trainsets). I did change-out the undersize Rivarossi wheelsets, and replaced them with Kadee 36" wheelsets.Some of these cars have truck-mounted couplers, some body-mounted, but I do have fairly generous curves, so very few problems with derailments. -- I don't care for strippingcars, but I'll need to before I paint up one in Wabash. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. The cars I bought have already had body mounted couplers added so I don't need to do that. Thanks Doug. The SGRR is a freelanced Class A railroad as it would have appeared on Tuesday, August 3rd, 1954, in my personal fantasy world of plausible nonsense. MDC Roundhouse made some 60 ft. Harriman passenger cars. I looked at these cars with interest. A railroad had to bemighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specifictrain. I was thrilled to see that they were Santa Fe also. 3) What kind of couplers are on them now? I weakened and bought a boat tail observation car because it was cool, not because the B&M ever owned one. The Rivi 60 foot heavyweights are beauties, stock with interiors and diaphragms, grab irons you can install yourself. Every pic I've seen of the Rivarossis on ebay, etc. Picture Information. Dyson V8 Animal+ Cordless Vacuum | Purple | Certified Refurbished, Swiss Gold 20 Francs (.1867 oz) - Helvetia - BU - Post 1933 - Random Date, Great Britain Gold Sovereign (.2354 oz) - King Edward - XF/AU - Random Date, $2.50/Mo Red Pocket Prepaid Plan: 200 Talk 1000 Text 200MB, March of the Machine Collector Booster Box - MTG Magic the Gathering - New! Kit I used Kadee 33" wheel sets. The MDC 1900 woodies are good looking, especially with a little paint and detail, but the axles are underscale and they derail frequently. So the first and biggest question is 1) Do they stay on the rails now? These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. For years, the BB kits were a staple of the hobby and I think it's a shame the line has been let go. Rivarossi presents the iconic Pullman 60 ft passenger cars that ran for many decades all over the country being pulled by early diesels and steam locomotives from the 1920s through the early 1950s. I bought the NP set in the two tone green. Excellent. I broke off the brake clasps so the 36" wheels would fit. I would be interesting in knowing which cars you were getting - the 1960's era AHM/Rivarossi 70-80' cars, or the 2000's era Rivarossi/Walthers/etc. HO SCALE RIVAROSSI UNION PACIFIC PASSENGER CAR LOT OF (6) READ! But we (my dad and I) went crazy and also bought a 2-8-8-2 and a bunch of other things. Adding diaphragms helps appearance too. The cars are brand new old stock. I ended up pulling up the curve and fixing it. I guess I'm just remembering the 'good ole days' when I first walked into a hobby shop and bought my first Athearn BB 50 footer for a whopping $2. These are based on ATSF cars, but are fairly generic and could be used for many other railroads. Thanks. I upgraded all to McHenry truck mounted couplers, 36" or 38" Intermountain wheelsets (after removing car brake shoes), and, when necessary, extra weight using glued birdshot in nooks and crannies of model floors. PRR had so much stuffthere may be some hope there. The assembled structure measures 5. While I've never bought one new, I have quite a few bought off the "used" table at a now long-gone hobbyshop.I think that the detail is decent, although the wheels are undersize, and have flanges which are deeper than most HO scale wheels. Super cheap? Thanks Don! Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. has body mount couplers. So you could run say a 60' Baggage with a 70' Rivarossi (if you can find one) or 72' Athearn coach or two in a train. In later years (more the lightweight era) MANY railroads had a colorthey often referred to as "pullman green', and these were often somekind of dark olive green. Up until the mid-1950's, the C&NW Chicago commuter trains were being hauled by light pacifics in the E and E-1 classes, when they replaced by GP's and F's. Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? Electric lights and air conditioning with center air duct. Should I look for metal ones made by IHC or are there other suitable, less expensive options. So I can't put "high quality" on either, neither are super cheap. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. > Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are?> > I did a cursory look through a bunch of my GN and PRR materials and> could not find a believable match for any of them. Free delivery for many products! 8) Any grades if anyare in your track work? They've been sold under several names since, including Rivarossi. I don't own any yet, unfortunately. Took about an hour of carefull work as to not get the metal rims to hot. If you get a chance to look around, Walthers packaged a set of three coaches with trainsets. The roofs may, or may not, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truck enamel'. Many railroads used these cars or similar ones from the 1900's well into the diesel era. I discovered they they meant 18, not 17 3/4, when I checked one flex-track curve. While I have deep-sixed most of the remaining Rivarossi in exchange for Walthers, Rapido, and BLI, I still have a few cars. I actually like the Roundhouse cars but as you reference, they are late 1800s, early 1900s. This is Rivarossi's postal/express baggage car, altered a bit to better ressemble a CNR prototype. I would liketo know more about them too. Product Notes: 1. When installed on IHC and Rivarossi passenger cars, these diaphragms will fill that 'non-scale' space between passenger cars without affecting their 18" turning radius. The car floors were predrilled with holes for wiring the car for electrical pickup from the trucks for lighting, but the wheels were plastic. While the models' detailing may match nobody's actual car, the 60 foot length certainly does - for instance, the floor plan I'm looking at right now for L&N "Mail cars 1106 to 1112 including 1114". The cars with passenger windows have interior details. I bought some a while ago and they have given me nothing but problems to deal with. down hill naturally !! $1200 IHC 9052 RIVAROSSI HO INTERIOR FOR ROOMETTE SLEEPER 4 WHEEL 1930 PASSENGER CAR $1200 Train Interior Rivarossi AHM IHC 1920's Duplex Sleeper Passenger Car HO Scale $2500 Passenger Seating Car Coach Interior For MDC Roundhouse HO Scale Overton Coach Gray $800 HO Train 50' Combine Passenger Luggage Car Interior Roundhouse MDC $1200 They are definitely a cut above the 80 foot AHM era cars. 36" wheels were too large unless you wanted to completely remove the brake shoe hanger. Off the top of my head, the RPO is a match or near-match for RPOs that the C&O and the Wabash used, and I /think/ the B&O, Southern and L&N. I was lucky enough to obtain a couple of sets of Rivarossi passenger cars from there last year of production. Did you back 'em up too? Guess I'll stick with the Rivarossi's. I've been doing some reading and have learned that most people replace the wheels and or trucks. with that kind of power, any wheels that do not want to roll will just slide along although none do. The combine and diner matched ATSF prototypes, the pullman was a standard type, as was the observattion. Rivarossi - German Passenger Coach ICE-T Set Class 415 of the DB. /Partly/ because that green was the official color for Pullman which owned and operated most sleeping cars until after WWII. We'll follow up with any questions or to make an offer. Add Quote. I'm afraid they'll vanish from the marketplace, Modeling the Wabash from Detroit to Montpelier The roofs may, or maynot, have been either black, 'pullman green', or 'dark green truckenamel'. -fm Perpetrator of the Haggis Decal Project, at, On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:44 UTC, "Christian" wrote: 2000. Rivarossi 60' HO Passenger Car Set Unboxing & Review 2,291 views May 1, 2020 49 Dislike Share Save Trainman440 1.25K subscribers Hi guys! All have updated tooling and features knuckle couplers and factory installed grab irons . i put a few ounces of lead type slugs inside the cars for extra weight. . For that, I cast some suitably-sized lead blocks, then put some in the washrooms at each end of the cars (most of my Rivarossi cars came with no interiors), and a bunch more in the clerestories, making each of them 15oz. As mentioned earlier, these were produced by American manufacturer Athearn and remained in the catalog until 1963. I've riden on similar ex-Rock Island commuter cars in the last few years at the Osceola and St.Croix RR, part of the Minnesota Transportation Museum's scenic train line. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. Well, that's another story. I'm glad its a steam that I am getting. The coupler box "swing arm" is well supported too, which will avoid coupler droop. Jeffers, thanks very much for the details on the MDC/Roundhouse cars. Unless you can nail it down to ONE car on ONE day you'll go NUTS tying to create 'generic' colors like 'pullman green' that work for all railroads in all eras and circumstances. When I was buying them in the 1980s, interiors were optional, iirc. Their passenger cars are decent though. Can anyone comment about Rivarossi passenger cars? It did require shaving away some of the cast on brake shoes but with care you can shave away enough to retain the "look" of the shoes yet let the wheels turn freely. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. As I understand it, the new Rivarossi company owned by Hornby has the old Rivarossi molds so I think there is a good chance the entire line might get reintroduced. Baggage and RPO cars were often shorter than other cars in the steam era, and coaches were often around 70'. Sold. I would guess that due to the weight of the cars with all the hardwood construction, no more than 5 or 6 were ever in a single train. 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