In addition to academic papers on rock, he wrote the 33 and 1/3 book on Dusty Springfields album Dusty in Memphis. Around 2000, he stopped listening to new musicexcept for Tom Petty. You don't know you're gonna make it, you don't know you're gonna get over. The presence of a Beatle is a thick presence. [laughs] Like, to this day, 20-something years later. We have the same musical pulse we always had, says Campbell. Very few go forever, you know. Ask Amy: Im still hurt by what my daughters did after their sisters death, Carolyn Hax: Embarrassing son is back home after losing his job, Carolyn Hax: Teen turns against mom after his dads death. And he hasnt ever spoken about this before.The first thing he said to me on the subject is I am very concerned that talking about this is putting a bad example out there for young people. I get it. You gotta find your crowd and then you gotta give it up to them a little too, you know; you can't force them to love you. Ive known him since I was 15. Come and get it!" Thus, the rocker said he has tons of regrets regarding his time with the band. We're a rock band! #10. It's funny, you know, working in a band is a chop; it's just another chop. I said, Im probably losing it, I dont know. He said, When The Eagles broke up, I was thirty-three. Youre a guy who wants to write songs now. As were driving, hes making me haul ass, and he says, Stanley, driving a Ferrari fast, thats what a groove feels like. At the gig, Marley had the place hypnotized. Many of whom we had strong feelings for. We played with X, we played with Gun Club, but we never stopped loving Tom Petty, Zanes said. If its just one or two of us, thats one thing. 90.9 KB Views: 172. Im not really there emotionally, he says. Location. You know, I probably squandered a lot of good time. When we got back together for the Bridge School Benefit it was just misery. Thats how, in a very roundabout way, Warren Zanes, a deputy professor at New York University, came to write Petty: The Biography, a new book about one of rocks most enigmatic figures, and his band, the Heartbreakers. It was almost like in Men In Black. Such as Lynchs understated work on those Petty classics. And I want to contribute whatever they'll let me contribute, and I want to learn what they'll let me learn. If I had a record label, I'd sign him. I found out hes turned out to be quite a gentleman and a real brother to me., It also turned out they needed a lot less time than they anticipated to lock back in musically. Show Reviews. It also fucks with the legacy. [laughs] And it's really nice when you hear somebody in the room, even if you're not sure whether they're better than you or worse than you, but it's something you wouldn't do! But it's a wonderful thing to know that I'm on a journey now. At one point, he said, Warren, Im going to have to answer questions about this for the rest of my life. And I said, I know.. You were open to doing an authorized version, right? But then, when he left his marriage and moved into a house, by himself, things slowed just long enough that all of that past came right as hes coming into the pain of not being able to control the well-being of his kids and not being able to control a dialogue with his ex-wife. I kneeled down, took her hand, and I went, Its going to be OK. I think its a bit of healing and closure for people to revisit that feeling and revisit Tom in a positive way., Playing Pettys music night after night has also given Lynch the opportunity to grieve for his friend. USA. My music life especially has always felt very cartoonish! The behind-the-scenes look at my books, from research adventures to promotion gambles. I've been extremely curious about what's gonna happen if? I favor Petty. The Heartbreakers are hardly a case study in intolerance. And some bands that have been together for 10 minutes, it's 10 minutes too long, and some bands that have been together for 20 years are just right. [laughter]. Merrill Lynch CEO Stan O'Neal, shown in a 2003 file photo, is a numbers person in what is, at its heart, a people business. Saying, These are the things that feel incredibly good, that cant be duplicated. As a drummer, he's all about paradox and contrast: an irresistible blending of Charlie Watts' solid understatement with John Bonham's raw go-for-the-throat power, either of which might turn and rear its head within a single verse. I dont know how thats going to feel. Hi! It was their first face-to-face encounter in 20 years, and they had a chat before playing much music together. They get busy trying to control the story. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. When hes telling the story about how his father beat the shit out of him at age five, its hard not to feel something., I cant pretend to know everything that was going through his mind in telling me these things, Zanes added. Warren himself had been a Tom Petty fan since he was eleven, when he heard Breakdown on WBCN in Boston. And our bass player Crawdaddy [Lance Morrison] said, You should play that song together in the show. I'm interested in rock music, literature, cinema, and doing research in Cultural Studies. I'm Bihter. Which is great, I mean, that means you certainly don't have to compromise! Tom Petty and the Heartbreakershad been off the road for nearly a year when the 1994 Bridge School Benefit came around. I know Im not a great singer, but I can get the point across, he says. Petty was our guy. So, in some ways it's harder for the same reasons it's easier, if that makes any sense. There were moments that I really treasure with those guys that can't be duplicated, you'll never get it again. What do you do when you lose inspiration for a period of time? Otherwise it can becomeit's just fetishism, it's just "This is my personal fantasy"of what everyone will love. Lynch talked to Zanes for two days straight about his long years of having to prove that he was the right drummer. Because every night I went out and watched Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Video unavailable That may be. But you know, no matter how much shit I give any of those guys or they can give me, there were some great lessons learned in how to grow up with people. He left the band in 1994 due to personal differences with Petty. Therefore I should do a duet with N'Sync!" Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. Lynch isnt looking for thespotlight anymore, though, according to his interview last week. He couldnt go from music into politics, and Bruce Springsteen could. That's how I see it now. When I heard what happened, it put me right down on my knees, literally. So it helps you to get your own inspiration back to be able to really learn to listen to somebody else.Yeah, because usually musicians don't listen, they just critique. But, in his own way, he said, I just dont want to go back there. But then, I know guys it didn't hurt. But it's wonderful to be in a band, if I have to leave somebody with a thought: it's wonderful to be in a band, even if it's just for a short period of time. In the warts-and-all film, Lynchs multi-faceted role as steady drummer/class clown/cheerleader/ball breaker/whipping boy was discussed at some length, though his side of the story was represented mostly through older interviews. Stan Lynch's income source is mostly from being a successful . It wasn't that I was gonna be a professor or a model or a car driver or a brilliant architect. That is the fuckin' ride. Tom Petty was a heroin addict in the 90s. That's when you've hit the real essence of collaboration, where you know you've found your partner. Receive updates & special offers from Modern Drummer and our advertising partners. Ive thought about having different singers up there doing the songs, but why? I don't think I have ever watched a drummer being interviewed that was so relatable. Theres also the matter of last years Peter Bogdanovichdirected Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers documentary Runnin Down A Dream. Blank Space: What Kind of Genius Is Max Martin? Guitar Saved Me!: Jeff Beck Looks Back in Never-Before-Heard Interview Audio I felt like, perhaps, Id made all the noise I could. He was the original drummer for Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers for 18 years until his departure in 1994. I was so vibed. Mike is a pivotal player in a previous life of mine. Margo Price Opens Up Like Never Before: It Feels Freeing Great guy! By virtue of his band staying together and the quality of the musicians, the Heartbreakers are a singular story in popular music. Stan Lynch Heartbreaking Rhythm. A fun chat with my old friend and original drummer with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, the great Stan Lynch. Petty spent the downtime recording his solo album Wildflowers with producer Rick Rubin and every member of the Heartbreakers besides Stan Lynch, a decision that did not sit well with the drummer. When the director of Goodfellas decided to make Personality Crisis, a documentary about David Johansen and his alter ego, Buster Poindexter, he wanted it to be a family affair. Its because hes trying to succeed at something that his own family failed at, sometimes dramatically. And I watched really excited people get more excited, and it was just a big amplifier. Stan Lynch by Patrick Berkery When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. In light of your experience of being in a band for so long, what advice would you give to band leaders to help the chemistry; what do you think is the best possible way to bring out everybody's creativity in a band situation?The truth of the matter is the best bands, including the Beatles and the Stones and the Who, have a core of creative fire to them that needs to be nurtured before the other people need to be nurtured. That was probably part of the charm was that I didn't know, and I think the very thing that used to be charming became a burden to [the Heartbreakers]. For puttin' up with that - God bless 'em! Theres more to this interview! Merrill Lynch CEO Stan O'Neal, shown in a 2003 file photo, is a numbers person in what is, at its heart, a people business. Earlier this year, Stan Lynch reunited with his former bandmate, Mike Campbell, when Campbell asked him to join him on the road with the Dirty Knobs. He said, I want it to be yours. Tons of them. Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. Then today, as soon as his tour bus hit Philadelphia, it all began again with three more. We have a freedom to walk down the street and meet people. The drummer realized after some point that he didnt want to be in the band anymore due to the personal and musical differences he had with Tom Petty. Stanley Joseph "Stan" Lynch (born May 21, 1955) is an American musician, songwriter and record producer. Stephen Lynch Science & Engineering Assoc, Chemistry. So you never bought into the whole idea that rock'n'roll is just for rebellious kids?No, it wasn't a personal rebellion for meit was a joy and also a way for me to draw attention to myself [laughter], which was what I always wanted to do. It never felt that strange. They tried to help him. What would I start doing, polling people in high school? If you listen to the old records, Stan and I are pushing, were locked, and lot of times were driving the songs. Oh yeah, that one never changed. Youre at Pettys house at a Christmas party. But he said, Its your book. I'm very comfortable with it. And theres plenty more as Zanes, granted full access, reports on the creation of not just Pettys biggest records, Damn the Torpedoes, and Full Moon Fever, but his less appreciated gems, including 1999s Echo. Zanes is more than a fan: In 1987, his band, the Del Fuegos, opened gigs for their hero. If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. For Zanes, the tour should have been heaven on earth. My shot out was that I was gonna be a rock drummer! If you're the kind of person who's an addict, or if you know somebody who's an addict, get help! And he, being the leader of the band, had to do most of the work around it. What do you think are the biggest pitfalls on the road to success, and after you become successful?The biggest pitfalls on the way to success: disillusionment and panic when you're so close. Stan Lynch, the band's longtime drummer, who eventually quit in 1994, is unsurprisingly the most critical of Petty. Most people collaborate, and sometimes I've been in collaborations where the person is basically just using me as a sounding board, and that's all that's required. It comes up in weird ways. Thats a hard thing to arrive at. And I wonder if you have any idea what the core values are that have helped you to stay sane, and also to grow as a person as you've gotten older and avoid becoming stagnant or bitter.Well I have those days.stagnant and bitter, that would describe several weeks of the year. There are times I wish that Petty was more of a self-promoter if only so that his songs could travel a little more widely. It became like, "Well that's pretty stupid that he's not acknowledging this." The original four Breakers are all upright as far as I know, he says. And hes just kind of patting this thing and Im thinking, This could go any one of ten thousand ways. 2023 Rolling Stone, LLC. But for many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker's greatest work. He didnt like the record. I wouldnt want to cheapen it or do a watered-down version., Theres been talks of a one-off tribute show where the Heartbreakers would play with guest singers, but Campbell says he cant even envision that. And when the set lists and all that stuff went away, I was really lost. When he released that safety valve out. A totally different sound, yet completely him., Zanes enrolled in Loyola and spent the next twelve years in universities, eventually getting a Ph.D. from Rochester University in Cultural Studies. We got beyond it. You can actually remain on the pedestal that youve earned as an artist. We never even tried one of my songs., When the tour ended, Zanes left the band and went back to New England, drifted around, and ended up in New Orleans, where he became a bike mechanic. All you need is a CD burner and $300 and you too can have your record on the Internet. Stan: Tom had basically told me I wasnt the right drummer for him anymore. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. Im really proud of the legacy. And in five minutes or so, Tom Petty comes out. He hopes hell get another chance to play with Campbell in the future, but he says hes ready for whatever happens. Then Covid Trapped Them There. The band loudly declared their love for Petty at their shows. I was still young and I didnt really understand what he meant by groove and feel. I remember asking Denny, What does that mean, can you quantify that? Your contract. MD: The Heartbreakers worked with a unique mix of producers over the years. I mean I'd say thatjoy and curiosity have overwhelmed stagnation and bitterness. They got me a Beatles magazine from 1965, the year I was born. [laughs], But I'll bet you're glad you stayed that way.I think it's the only wayto thine own self be true [laughs]. And he died soon after. In Pettys interviews with Zanes, he was as forthright and honest as he is in his songs, talking about his abusive father, his failed marriage, and his heroin use. having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. And there was always great coffee. Just don't let too much time go by before you do something or it could be too late. And they don't! But they're in it for a different ride. Not all artists understand that. I was feeling very insecure about them. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. I said, How do you digest two albums worth of material? They went, Thats Wednesday for me. Bissonette was going, You chart them out. And I was poised to do that. So you pick a really good time, when everybody's sober, when you've got everyone's attention, and usually you preface it with a lot of love and caring, or a desire to see a full life with them. [laughs] You know, but back in the day - here we go, Grandpa Shitpants speaks - in 1970, to have a record deal meant something, that was a discriminator: "Well I have a band" "No wait, I have a band and we're signed!" So, how much is Stan Lynch worth at the age of 67 years old? Last week, Stan Lynch was interviewed atthe Matheson Museum in Gainesville, Florida. I didnt want to find out anything that would compromise the mans dignity, Zanes said. I grabbed him and told him what I needed to tell him. Christ, you're kidding! Lets do some more. Andrew Witmer It was just, it was never that harsh to me! So we're even! Tom Petty has had too many hits for some critics to be fully comfortable with him. They Took a Third Date to Costa Rica. One day, Pettys manager, Tony Dimitriades, called Zanes out of the blue and said that Tom had read Dusty in Memphis and wanted to have dinner the next time Warren was in L.A. For Zanes, who had a new baby at home in Cleveland, It was all I could do not to leave right then. When they did meet, Petty said that the Dusty book had inspired a song, and that he wanted Zanes to come to his house to hear it. Lynch joined his former bandmates during their induction ceremony for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. 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