Thank you Marco for your feedback. Like distinctly hearing the Tih, Tih, Tih, Tih of the drumstick lightly tapping on a cymbal. This is a elevation in the lower midrange which can make vocals and fundamental frequencies more engaging. The integrated bi-amped (4 channel . This is what you hear. As regular readers know, we do very few equipment reviews on Audiophile Review, but occasionally I come across something that I think deserves my reader's attention, and the Vanatoo Zero Active loudspeaker definitely makes the grade. Pair that with small woofers that can produce over 7kHz but cross them over way too low also adds to the incredible midrange and vocal resolution and instrument separation. Sound is very real. I dont have the most experience with audiophile speakers, but these are outstanding. Around the back, you find all the necessary hookups for the speakers, as well as three control knobs. Raising them off the desktop is an absolute must. Seriously. Like its predecessor, the LSX II is basically a shrunk-down, less powerful and more affordable version of the company's flagship LS50 Wireless II. Top right is mute and volume functions. We are always working on something new. If it is going to last you a long time? they were out of stock. They are small enough to fit anywhere. Zero sounded best mounted on suitable speaker stands w/appropriate spacing. We are always working on something new. They almost sound flat in this configuration, which I believe is where some of the bad reviews have come from. Thonet and Vander Krbis Bt 300 Watts Wood Hi-Fi Bluetooth 4.0 Speak. miss my Sub from my original 2.1 setups do yourself a favor try them out. iLoud MTM is crazy good for the price, if you don't listen at very loud level in a big room. I will most likely be buying the T1 Encores for my small to mid-sized living room at some point after having bought the T0s. Sure, all the high-end wiring options are there, but these speakers can easily be hooked up to a computer via USB. The magnetically attached speaker grills are also in this section of the packaging. My living room was set up with a Huge Emotiva 80 pound amp driving two Magnapan MMG, and a 10 inch Emotiva sub. Oglnie jako fantastyczna. The speakers AUX reproduce music exactly the way it was recorded with solid bass clear midrange and sparkling highs. The amount of bass I get out of these little speakers is amazing. Really good. The Transparent Zero is a sign of where the market is at, only lunatics have proper sized speakers anymore. So depending on set up, your sound experience could vary. So if you happen to be a an audiofile, you will need to read different reviews of the Transparent Zeros, but maybe there are people who are in a similar situations than me. . Anthony K. I use the Vanatoo Zero speaker to run audio for my TV this is the best value I have found for the dollar in any single piece of audio equipment. In this modern world, theres no excuse for crappy audio. as very interested in seeing that I had the best experience. I plan to do what you are supposed to do with great music and that is sit back, listen and enjoy. My previous setup consisted of some giant kenwood tower speakers that I found at goodwill for 50 bucks and an old sansui receiver that a buddy gave me and these blow those out of the water while taking a fraction of the space. You can tell a lot of thought went into the entire package. The Transparent Zero supports Bluetooth aptX, including USB, optical, and analog inputs and 4 x 48-watt per channel class D digital amplifier. If youve listened to any decent pair of studio monitors, youll know the sound is fairly colored. The sound is non-fatiguing like some studio monitors Ive tried, and the soundstage is much larger than expected. I have a pair of Vanatoo Transparent Zero, and all I can say id, theyre better than they have any right to. What Im even more blown away by is the sound stage and imaging. Gary was right on money about these T0s being more than adequate for my needs. Whered they find that thing? The Vanatoo Transparent Zero, however, is merely mediocre at its $399 asking price, when compared to similarly priced products, and won't satisfy the needs of most people. Sounds best: In normal configuration (radiator up, flat on the desk) a few inches to a foot away from the wall on a not-too-solid desk (or on the floor oddly) with a sub-woofer blended-in and pointed towards you and the T0s with zero toe-in. At that price point, and depending where you live, I would look into a the Triangle Elaras active, Hivi Swan M200MkIII, Edifier S2000MkIII or S1000db, etc. I am comparing them to Martin Logan Sequel 2s my standard stereo speakers for listening to music. They;re both great to deal with, and are very knowledgeable about their product. I also bought the matching stands. I checked that everything was still hooked up, went back to the DVD and had sound, hmmm. I didnt want them to take too much space but I wanted them to sound decent, after having heard so many hollow-sounding cheapos. Ive really been enjoying these speakers. Now, I am no audiophile. Certainly no slouch and I have nothing to complain about for the price. These things are easy to set up, versatile, and in my opinion look pretty badass. After receiving the speakers I was immediately impressed. The one shortcoming was that with the speakers much further apart (on each side of a 65 TV) and given the locations of our seats the listener is biased more towards one of the speakers, rather than in the dead center as was the case at my desk in my initial listening. Great speakers. Released in mid-2022, the KEF LSX II is the second generation of the company's insanely popular LSX active speaker system. Thanks. I dont like clutter, Im a minimalist, so I went looking for something better and landed on these. While the interface is a little bit confusing the sound quality and compactness makes up for it. When it comes to audio components, I know Ive found the Holy Grail when I find myself listening to music and not listening to the equipment and that is the case with the T0S. Well, two engineers at Vanatoo are aiming to change that. But that is seriously nit-picky. The sound will improve dramatically by using good analog and digital interconnect cables. The large tweeters with the low crossover point provides resolution and imaging to the sound. Really impressed with the T0s! Lotzi B. Sound? Easy to eliminate by leaving them activated all the time, but I decided to save a bit of power and live with it. A sub is not required for most genres of music but when you get to listening to Hip Hop (80s/90s, Reggae, Dance Music (70s/90s), House Music (80s/90s) and Jazz (Traditional Jazz pre 1969, with some exceptions, Sorry Kenny G) A sub is a must in order to reproduce those lows that are must have. sound of the USB was great but I did perceive noticeable improvement in sound quality when paired with a dac, the Fiio E18 and Topping E30 gave a cleaner sound but I again preferred the Zen Dac for the truebass button to give an extra push in low frequencies when im listening at low volume (around 55-60 db). These speakers are enjoyable at all levels. In addition to streaming from your smartphone or laptop, its easy to connect most modern active speakers to your television or to your turntable, too. I also bought the matching stands. First, the wired connections (such as HDMI, optical, RCA and line-in for a turntable) aren't into the rear of one of the speakers but built into a separate hub; this makes it easy to hide unsightly wires. Im using this as my desktop setup and its excellent choice as it contains all the inputs you could possibly want and not clutter the desk with any separate amp/dac. My dad has a pair of B&W 700s, and while maybe not at the same level, the t0s get pretty close(especially when paired with a good sub). Another artifact is that because the real woofer and virtual woofer are so physically close, they will couple at much higher frequencies than what is normally called "room gain or boundary gain". The Microphone was a little off axis of the tweeter in these measurements, but it was not moved between measurements. However, that doesnt mean you dont have some options. Kanto is well known for its affordable active loudspeakers, and the TUK might just be its best. Bluetooth capability is a nice bonus. The fact that these are so reasonable and have such a small form factor is mind boggling. These are important as they allow you to also connect your speakers to analog sources, such as a turntable, preamp, your computer or even a TV. Caveats: -I did not configure them for different inputs. Multiple physical inputs are a plus as I have two laptops and a synthesizer Id be juggling. There are bass, treble and volume, each to tune the speakers to your tastes. Having seen the reviews I was anticipating something decent. The speakers reproduce music exactly the way it was recorded, with solid bass, clear midrange, and sparkling highs. Sound quality is very subjective, , but there is just something special and magical when listening to my music with these Vanatoos. After scratching my head a bit, I thought about the audio settings in the AppleTV 4K, I checked and the AppleTV 4K was set to Dolby Atmos, I changed the output format to two channel stereo only and restarted the movie and had full audio (moral of this story is that the speakers internal decoder for the bit stream from the TV via the fiber optic cable was unable to make sense of the multichannel feed for the Dolby Atmos mix, which is totally reasonable for what is obviously only a stereo pair of speakers). This self-contained system packs a serious punch and, while the price tag is slightly higher, the extra coin may just be worth it to you. Listening to them is just short of a religious experience for me and although I didnt see God, I think I heard applause from heaven when I was blasting the Old School tune Spirit in the Sky. Really impressed with the T0s! This geometry tilts the speaker back when placed on a flat surface, as well as hiding from ears the nasty bits of sound that can reflect off of the top of cabinets. At first they seem a little like the tweeters are behind something in the highs (even with grills removed), but then all of a sudden Ill start picking out sounds and textures that I just simply flat out missed when listening to he same content on other speakers/headphones and I realize just how clear they are. i have used it with the USB connection as well as with an external USB amplifier from my laptop (because my laptop does not put out much volume) that then connects with a 3.5 mm male-to-male. At least I am not aware of anything better. Unboxing immediately impressed me with the speakers apparent finish quality and how it complimented my computer environment. Both these speakers I felt were a cut above most speaker systems for nearfield use. Like many of us I have spent most of 2020 working from home, as such I decided to upgrade my speaker setup. The feature set is far better than the Transparent Ones, adapted to the current state of the audio world. for placement make sure the speakers are not pointed directly at your ears, like 3-4 inches away from you ears, you will sacrifice a tiny bit of high end detail, but you will gain massively in sound stage. I have had my T0s for a year. I first saw these speakers in action at the RMAF in 2017. We are happy that you are enjoying your new T0s. Full and rich. Sound is clear. I was really impressed. Award-winning High Performance Audio. One viewer mentioned the Niam Mu-So qb2 which is a different product altogether. Luckily the designers planned for this and there is a dedicated sub-woofer out with the ability to set the crossover on the speakers themselves depending on your listening position and preference. Spirit in the Sky happens to be my wifes favorite tune so as you can imaging Im pretty fond if it as well. If only I could skip the incrementalism and went straight with the T0, I would have saved so much money and never wondered if I could do better. We are talking about the bizzarro setup, strangeness with the kickstand, rattling if the isolation pads are not used, and the enable button on the remote. I specifically told them that their next speaker needed to be a destroyer of worlds. The Vanatoo company is friendly and responsive, do yourself a favor BUY the Zero! So much awesome sound from a great form factor. Im hearing sounds in songs I have never heard before, the clarity, depth of the base, openness, and all the other audiophile terms that I can think of are there. Back of the tweeter reveals that it uses a button magnet. Easy to eliminate by leaving them activated all the time, but I decided to save a bit of power and live with it. No, I am here to say that these just sound good. It uses a 1 inch soft dome tweeter, 4 inch aluminum midrange/bass driver, coupled with a passive radiator, in an acoustic suspension sealed enclosure for more accurate bass response.The speaker is bi amplified with 48 watts into 4 channels to power each tweeter and woofer individually. Ive had several pairs of desktop speakers over the years and was never truly happy with the sound. I dont think Ive ever seen included functionality that allows you to adjust the blue-tooth light brightness on any speaker. Well, I am utterly blown away. 100% Satisfied! These speakers are small enough to fit perfectly on my computer desk, they are self powered, and they even include their own DAC. Released in 2021, the Q Active 200 is the company's first pair of active speakers. Vanatoo transparent zero speakers Heres hoping you enjoy your music on your Vanatoo speaker systems for a long time to come. Additionally, you can tell that Rick and Gary put a lot of hard work and love into these things. Damn satisfied! I spend a lot of time working at my computer, and its great to have some real, and real affordable, audio coming at me while doing so. Second, when the shipment arrived the packaging was first rate. The Zero uses a radiator that matches the size of the woofer, small. The originator even thought about the intensity of the diode, sleep mode and many other aspects (magnetic grilles, brackets, the ability to rotate) a wonderful remote control really great. Again the sound is stunning. The sound is clean, detailed, and has reasonable bass, but to me the key to getting the most out of these speakers is this.. Although I do not consider myself an audiophile,just someone who enjoys quality sound reproduction. If anyone has got some suggestions it would be highly appreciated. blown away. For reasons unclear, probably because of my 1220 room/s size, they never seemed to sound as good as my expectations. Curiously they sound better the longer you listen to them. The wireless remote control makes use with a TV a breeze, with better performance than a comparably priced soundbar. With the external sub they are more than loud enough for my small bedroom office, I have never turned them up more than half way. The speakers themselves are perfect for a desk setup, providing great sound and are jam packed with features. A satisfied customer (V zero) I feel that if I continue to tweak the placement of the speakers and play with a few settings I may be able to get a slightly better sound out of them but frankly the image is so centered to my dual monitor setup that there really is no need to do anything at all other than enjoy them as is. I really didnt know what to buy, so I started doing research. Thanks B&W. Animal Friendly: This model has a black metal speaker cover that's cat and animal proof. They reach way up there, but are never shrill while doing it. Vanatoo aims to create affordable, versatile audiophile quality powered speakers for today's music enthusiast. I am beyond impressed with these little speakers. I use the Transparent One Encore pair on 30 inch pedestal stands, about 18 inches away from the opposite wall from my desktop and Transparent Zeros. I have been tinkering with the treble adjustment to compensate, and I suspect I have not yet found the perfect alignment of these speakers. The zeroes replaced the american audience one speakers and I havent missed them a bit. Like what? Bottonline: Well though-out compact speakers. I hope others enjoy these amazing speakers as much as I do. These speakers are small and fit perfectly on my office desk, but youd never know they were so small from the full and crisp sound they provide! system Ive heard for the price. The result is full range sound that is unprecedented from such a small system. The pads make a difference in eliminating the resonance compared to putting the speakers on the glass. When I walked in I expected to see some large towers, but saw the Transparent Zeros. As my first audiophile speakers these little speakers blew me away with what they can do. I can pretty much sum up this speaker like this.. You can get the $10k Sound from this $800 combo, and you will have the ultimate desktop speaker.. , so I got the Polk Audio PSW10choosing value over performance in that department. Article says one's but the picture is a zero. With the Callisto 2C, Dali enters the active arena with a three-piece system (2 loudspeakers and Sound Hub) designed for stands or placed on a sturdy media credenza. Release the Pair/Prog Button and the light on the front of the speaker will blink, and now the Vanatoo Transparent Zero is in mono mode, and you can use the powered speaker by itself as a bluetooth portable(as long as you have access to a power outlet). Downsides are all easy to work around or live with. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. The sound on these blew me away and the connectivity is top notch. I made sure to make the speaker setting changes needed to the factory settings to get the best sound for my ears. Perfect from Chomecast Audio Anyone who picks up the T0s will be a happy camperperiod! The spider looks nice, and the lead wires are quality braided copper. Auditioned A2+ and other best seller competitor in class. As source mostly USB from a Raspberry/Volumio or Optical from Raspberry/Hi-Fi Berry Digi and Synology NAS/Minimserver. The "Kickstand" you see propping up the speaker can be moved from one side of the speaker to the other or removed completely with an included allen wrench. The low end these produce is simply mind blowing!! The bottom pink line is the speaker without the reflection speaker. Price and availability play a huge part in this. i replaced some Grace Digital BT speakers with these and, while those produced higher volume, the quality of the sound of the Vanatoos is much better. It cannot be beat! If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. en to them I can close my eyes and can point to where the players of every instrument is sitting on the stage in front of me . Try these. But be awareif you feed them a compressed stream like Spotify or iTunes, you wont hear them at their best. But even though they wont blow my hair away with bass (but still impressive given their size), they have a very good presence and the mids are very well defined. I doubt you can beat them at this price point. The bottom green line is again with the reflected speaker on, but with a DSP correction I created to remove the tonal effects of the reflection. Great bargain and may be all many people need. They are perfect in every way. After some testing with my media, including lossless rips and vinyl, I was pleasantly surprised. Never had them over heat even running for 5 hour events at reasonable volume. Rare qualities: They angle for sound staging setup, come in a lower-gloss white, and aren't rear-ported like most CM1s which, in my humble, make for a more unique bass experience. im no audiophile in the pejorative sense of the term as someone who is foolish enough to spend hundreds of dollars on simple RCA type interconnects, but i am fussy about sound quality, and have owned some decent gear. I had read the reviews. The 2 owner/designer partners stand behind their products and even seem to always be available for phone calls and quick reply emails! Sound quality aside, you can tell they have put a lot of thought into these with the little things like the remote, magnetic grills, etc. Small and cheap speakers transform into retarded and good Micca COVO-S Review! However, you'll also need to purchase another component, either the Sound Hub ($899) or Sound Hub Compact ($499), which adds the wireless and analog connections necessary for the Callisto 2C to work as a true modern active speaker system.). Im really enjoying them in my office. I had high expectations for these speakers, based on reviews, and those expectations have been surpassed; the speakers are incredible. Thank you to the developers of this amazing product 1000 times over, One of the most quality purchases Ive made and one of the most helpful companies that I have made communication with, Standalone speakers were more than enough to bring great sound to my work station, but I added a sub for more base. Keep up the good work, would be awesome if you created a subwoofer as well. We can tell you everything you need to know. nd speakers were a thing I stayed away from for a really long time. One of my close friends told me about the Vanatoo t0 and more recently I had the money to invest in these speakers and I am not disappointed. Might move to different rooms depending on need, largest being 15x15 ft. Usage: Music from a variety of sources (Spotify, Bandcamp, YouTube, local audio files) as well as some monitoring for audio and video editing. I hunted for them for many years because they could not be bought in Poland, but in the end I made it and I will stay with them as long as their successor appears Congratulations on everything because it is a great project. I was ok with the price for all the features the unit comes packed with. I cannot describe the change in sound that is now coming from my T-1 speakers. Also, dont be afraid of the refurbished models, I have encountered no issues with mine. I am using them for my dance studio and listening room. I just played Gimme Shelter by the Rolling Stones I didnt believe I was listening to two little speakers and a very modest priced Subwoofer I was sure somebody had slipped a big tower speaker into the room instead. I suspect this is partially due to the speaker being likely intended for use as a near field speaker, rather than a far field speaker, at 6 plus feet from the speaker I was certainly not in a near field situation and again to be fair, my listening location geometry is not optimal for two speakers, especially this small, to try and create a strong phantom center channel. I read several positive reviews & bit the bullet with the anticipation of experiencing audio nirvana. Thank you Brian for your endorsement. Mark G. Note you can purchase these online if you search for it. The sensation in the ears, even at higher volumes, is of easy power not the familiar sensation of pressure boring into the brain. However, after many years of heavy use, they finally gave out. I dont think I have heard anything as seamless. These speakers accomplish absolutely everything I wanted in new audio setup and they are worth every penny. My previous setup consisted of some giant kenwood tower speakers that I found at goodwill for 50 bucks and an old sansui receiver that a buddy gave me and these blow those out of the water while taking a fraction of the space. Take control of your music with the Transparent Zero full-featured wireless remote control. The Transparent Zeros. It's a 4 channel D2Audio Class-D amp, which puts out 48 watts to each driver. One viewer mentioned the Niam Mu-So qb2 which is a different product altogether. The Vanatoo guys say that the driver has enough leakage paths to get air out from behind the dust cap, and that venting can have some negative effects. to have to deal with a subwoofer neither, I hate clutter. I absolutely love them. Vanatoo's work around is to use a radiator that has twice the xmax of the woofer. The T0s bests the A2s in soundstage, vocal clarity and clean bass by a healthy margin. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7b9c535779079e56 ELAC Debut 6.2 - For Desktop (Nearfield) or Small Room (20 sqm), Tower speakers similar to Shure 940 or ATH r70x, Looking for great PC nearfield speakers that can play low-quality sources (Spotify & YouTube). These Transparent Zeros are absolutely fantastic and Im in love with them! In terms of things that maybe could be better, the UI for making any kind of adjustment is rather esoteric, but youre probably never going to use it more than once or twice, so thats a pretty minor thing overall. The look matches up well with current audio hardware, coming in three different, beautiful finishes. I am able to bring the prices of each speaker to the following amounts (out the door, shipped) due to various store credits and discounts: With these new price points in mind, is the additional ~$170-$200 worth it for the T0 if I rarely listen to music and will primarily be using the speakers as computer speakers for watching videos, etc? For my use the Vanatoo T0 speaker system has fulfilled my acoustic needs beyond expectations with high quality sound, a range of controls options and Bluetooth that should fulfill anyones needs including a quality remote control and 3 year warranty. The speaker-and-amp combo means that active loudspeakers have fewer moving parts; theres no need for a separate receiver or an external amplifier like you would need with passive bookshelf speaker system. This will minimize off axis null found at the crossover point as you move off axis vertically with two way speakers. Its great (and louder than I need) for music, and also seamlessly lets me switch between digital audio inputs and bluetooth, which is all I really needed or wanted. whodathunk?) I went with the crossover set to about 130-140hz, which is about 2-3 o-clock position, and the gain at about the 10 o-clock position.) Youd be hard-pressed to find a speaker thats the whole package at this price point. No, I am here to say that these just sound good. Damn satisfied! I will most likely be buying the T1 Encores for my small to mid-sized living room at some point after having bought the T0s. Gary, Rick I really dont know how the heck you did this or what black magic you are using. Archived post. I use all of them on a regular basis and rarely have to manually change them. I did a great deal of research before purchasing and this was my choice. I found a RJ50 coupler and a larger extension. The T0 brings audiophile sensibilities to small, affordable, and convenient everyday use. Holding out purchasing in hope another iteration is coming in near future. I have been around quality speakers most of my life,grew up listening to my dads MARANTZ/TEAC setup. Vanatoo Transparent Zero (T0) (W = 4.8") Vanatoo Transparent One Encore (T1E) (W = 6.5") Micca PB42X (W = 5.8") Note that if the speaker must be angled inward for an optimal listening experience, the actual width taken up on the desk will be higher than the numbers in parenthesis above, which might rule out some of the options. I left them at the initial, default settings. The Best Bookshelf Speakers for Your Home Hi-Fi System, The Best New Wireless Speakers That Have Old School Flair, A Beginner's Guide to Home Audio Equipment, What Does Hi-Fi Even Mean Anymore? And I was not disappointed. -The room is 230 sq ft. For very large rooms, and different listening setups, a larger speaker might win out. Dayton Makes a Budget Desktop speaker with a crossover - Dayton Audio MK402 review is up! Clearly the designers /engineers put some real thought and care into making these bonkers little monsters sound the best they can for their size. 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